The Structure of a Thetan

thetanA “photon” is an outcome of an electromagnetic wave acquiring particle like properties. Similarly, thetan seems to be an outcome of theta acquiring individuality.

A particle acquires an identity through its discreteness, form and inertia. Similarly, a thetan seems to acquire a definition through its “discreteness” of individuality and “inertia” of identity.

The wave properties of electromagnetism seem to condense into the form of a particle. Similarly, the awareness properties of theta seem to condense into the form of a thetan.

The thetan seems to be the resultant of awareness vectors formed by considerations, desires and impulses. Thus, a thetan may be defined in terms of complex interactions among the elemental vectors of considerations, desires and impulses.

These elemental vectors seem to make up the thetan’s intention, thetan’s will, and the thetan itself. Their source seems to be beyond the thetan.

Thetan is the resultant identity. An identity has a localized form, and also a localized occurrence. Thus, a thetan has a location in space and time (see the picture above).

The thetan is considered to be the spirit, which is basically the aliveness of the body.

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  • Chris Thompson  On December 13, 2013 at 9:28 AM

    Using Cones:
    I am using vectors together with cone shape to model personality or thetan. With their circular base at present time, and their pinnacle at a beginning point in the past, and using vector arrows to point generally from pinnacle (past) to the base or any point on the base (present), we can model one vector of personality as one unit of an expanding sphere of considerations. This model can model attitudes, character, an entire thetan (personality), culture, race, species, etc., depending on the scope encompassed (frame of reference.) This model is consistent with Vinay’s “center of gravity” concepts of beingness as well.

    I like the vector + cone model as a subset of spheres to describe the general progression of space-time. Thetan (personality) as a subset of this seems consistent,.

  • vinaire  On December 13, 2013 at 1:59 PM

    Clothing is basically an outer covering.. It provides a certain impression.. It gives color to the personality.

    Personally, I have been quite utilitarian towards clothing. I haven’t used it as a tool.

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    • vinaire  On December 13, 2013 at 2:01 PM

      Clothing can hide as well as reveal. There can be art made out of this. Actually, there is such an art form.

    • vinaire  On December 13, 2013 at 2:02 PM

      Clothing may also be used as a tool.

  • vinaire  On December 13, 2013 at 2:12 PM

    Career has the basic sense of a path on which one travels. A career should be harmonious with one’s skills.

    Personally, I have been satisfied with my career as an engineer; but I enjoyed my career as a word clearer a lot more. It was much more satisfying. But engineering provided me with a lot of mass and with the knowledge of the importance of precision.

    At this juncture of life I am combing the experience from these two careers into a career in the field of education. I would love to see a grass roots movement going in the field of education.

    With the right career the progress is rapid because there is harmony with one’s skill set or individuality.

  • vinaire  On December 13, 2013 at 5:57 PM

    From Tech Dictionary:

    IDENTIFICATION, 1. the inability to evaluate differences in time, location, form, composition, or importance. ( SOS, p. 153) 2. identification is a monotone assignment of importance. (SOS, p. 153) 3 . the lowest level of reasoning is complete inability to differentiate, which is to say, identification. (SOS, p.153) 4 . Duplicating in one space continually, is in itself identification. (2ACC-25B, 5312CM17)

    So one can’t tell the difference between two things, when they are actually different. One is not aware of the identification one is making. But the identification will generate a lot of inconsistencies, and the person can become aware of those.

    I have observed people making identifications. This is a common error due to homonyms. One commonly identifies self with things that are desirable.

    By following inconsistencies, one can discover identifications.

  • vinaire  On December 13, 2013 at 6:01 PM

    On human body parts one may get parts that produce pleasure, or parts that are in pain or have problems.

    The human body is as much part of the beingness as is the human spirit, individuality and identity.

  • vinaire  On December 13, 2013 at 6:12 PM

    I have nothing more to comment on brain, body, cells, car, house, etc. except that problem areas to do with these words will come to mind.

    If one is having general difficulty in handling problems, then one simply has to get organized. If one can’t get organized then there may be a deeper problem, which has nothing to do with these words. One may also look at one’s food intake and get oneself medically examined.

    Not all physical problems can be handled through the mind. Physical means for resolving problems are just as important as the mental means. They simply has to be a proper balance between the two.

    • Chris Thompson  On December 13, 2013 at 6:28 PM

      Vinaire: I have nothing more to comment on brain, body, cells, car, house, etc. except that problem areas to do with these words will come to mind.

      Chris: Better check with Mrs. Argawala before closing that out. (wink)

  • vinaire  On December 13, 2013 at 6:27 PM

    Here are the Second Dynamic items assessed on L10.

    food preparation, duplication, child, sex,
    genital, penis, vagina, sperm,
    ovum, semen, conception, childhood,
    mother, farther, matriarch, patriarch,
    son, daughter, intercourse, family,
    home, desire, virility, impotence,
    a marriage, seduction, urge to procreate, sexual pleasure,
    sexual sensation, courting, feminity, masculinity,
    pregnancy, birth, babies, breasts,
    contraceptives, homosexuality, bisexuality, sexual practices,
    rape, promiscuity, VD, relatives,
    family ties, incest, mother’s milk, abortion,
    prenatal, influence, mating, nurturing,
    menstruation, infatuation, sexual love, sibling,

    Here we shall handle these items with MSC.

    • vinaire  On December 13, 2013 at 6:49 PM

      Some people may get great pleasure out of food preparation that parallels the pleasure that comes from sexual foreplay. It may have to do with harmones and pleasure centers in the brain.

      Males usually go for sexual pleasure rather than for begetting a child. Women seems to go more for a feeling of security than for sexual pleasure. They get security and prolonged pleasure from begetting a child. These are just my conjectures.

      Parts involved in the sexual act seems to get identified with sexual pleasure itself. Mystery seems to get attached to these parts because sexual pleasure appears to be mysterious. People in the throes of sexual pleasure become very different from their normal personality.

      Desire for sexual pleasure seems to come from a deeper desire to know and understand. But the sexual pleasure does not lead one to knowledge and understanding.

      Family is a totally different subject than the sexual act and the pleasure from it. Similarly, growing up is an entirely different subject. So, in this word list we have three different areas mixed together.

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      • Chris Thompson  On December 13, 2013 at 7:26 PM

        In this context, when He writes “duplication,” is he referring to propagation?

        • vinaire  On December 13, 2013 at 7:29 PM

          I think so… something like continuation of the species through duplication of living units.

      • MarkNR  On December 13, 2013 at 7:38 PM

        Vin:
        “Family is a totally different subject than the sexual act and the pleasure from it. Similarly, growing up is an entirely different subject. So, in this word list we have three different areaa mixed together.”
        Mark:
        The sex act and family and children are not the same, BUT THEY ARE ATTACHED. Per an understanding of one aspect of intelligence: “The ability to detect differences, similarities, and identities.” They are not the same, and they are not different. I have not done L-10, but I have gone over hundreds of way back times that demonstrated their attachment.
        Added to this is the desire to experience the oneness of theta, the basis of affinity, and the complexities of interaction and oneness, and you get a varied and rich subject. This aspect of the 2nd Dyn. is sorely missing from the assessment list you presented here.
        There are many Cl.-12s in the Independent field who, from hearing 100s of individuals dive into this area whole track, could provide much data and help give a very good understanding of this subject.
        The pleasure of sex and physical procreation is fairly late on the track and has as it’s basis the bliss of joining in near perfect ARC, AND the accomplishment of the separation of oneself through the creation of an additional viewpoint (individual). These experiences were MUCH earlier.
        I have seen much of this and am on solid ground here.
        Mark

        • Chris Thompson  On December 13, 2013 at 8:00 PM

          MNR: Added to this is the desire to experience the oneness of theta, the basis of affinity, and the complexities of interaction and oneness, and you get a varied and rich subject. This aspect of the 2nd Dyn. is sorely missing from the assessment list you presented here.

          Chris: Possibly you would work on additional pertinent words for this list? That would be a great contribution.

        • MarkNR  On December 18, 2013 at 11:41 PM

          Chris:
          I’ll get back to you on that 2D word list. I’ll have to do more detailed research. I could make some up, but that could lead persons astray or worse. Also, the confusions and inconsistencies I find will mostly be the same as yours, some will be similar, and a few will be different. This is consistent with discussions I have had with others on whole track turning points. If you are comfortable doing solo assessments it will eliminate most problems. Some reads can be lost by using open lists instead of platens, but the important ones stay and real reads will become more pronounced as you resolve more inconsistencies and know what to look for. There have been several instances in which I realized I was wrong about something, and later thought, if i was wrong about that, maybe I was wrong about this also. Being familiar with YOUR OWN meter reactions will come with experience.
          Mark

        • vinaire  On December 13, 2013 at 8:54 PM

          All subjects are related in some way. From my view of MSC, it is better to clear these words in three separate groups.

        • MarkNR  On December 13, 2013 at 10:34 PM

          Vin: “All subjects are related in some way.”
          Mark: Yes. These attachments are of particular importance. Not just random attachments This is an area and group of areas that has considerable confusion. It CAN be considerably smoothed out. Your methods of mindfulness and subject clearing can be of great value. Once the confusions are cleared, and ones own experiences are VIEWED, the differences and attachments will become clear.
          Dive deep and you will have quite an adventure.
          Mark

        • vinaire  On December 14, 2013 at 6:28 AM

          I am already diving deep and having quite an adventure. 🙂
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