The Factors

Factors

Reference: A Critique of Scientology Philosophy

I humbly submit my review of “The Factors” of Scientology by L. Ron Hubbard as they appear in the book Scientology 8-8008.

THE FACTORS

  1. Before the beginning was a Cause and the entire purpose of the Cause was the creation of effect.

FACTOR # 1 (revised): The theoretical beginning may be seen as following the absence of all existence, physical or metaphysical, including any consideration, assumption, speculation or logic.

Reference: The Factor # 1

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  1. In the beginning and forever is the decision and the decision is TO BE.

FACTOR # 2 (revised): The fundamental beingness is the existence of motion and emotion that is eternal without beginning or end.

Reference: The Factor # 2

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  1. The first action of beingness is to assume a viewpoint.

FACTOR # 3 (revised): The viewpoint represents the inner essence of beingnesses, which begins as awareness.

Reference: The Factors # 3 to 5

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  1. The second action of beingness is to extend from the viewpoint, points to view, which are dimension points.

FACTOR # 4 (revised): The dimension point represents the outer form of beingness, which begins as space.

Reference: The Factors # 3 to 5

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  1. Thus there is space created, for the definition of space is: viewpoint of dimension. And the purpose of a dimension point is space and a point of view.

FACTOR # 5 (revised): The “spread” of beingness from viewpoint to dimension point is defined by the dimension of abstraction.

Reference: The Factors # 3 to 5

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  1. The action of a dimension point is reaching and withdrawing.

FACTOR # 6 (revised): The dimension point evolves from space into interchanging electrical and magnetic fields.

Reference: The Factors # 6 to 10

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  1. And from the viewpoint to the dimension points there are connection and interchange. Thus new dimension points are made. Thus there is communication.

FACTOR # 7 (revised): The viewpoint evolves from awareness into experiencing and associating.

Reference: The Factors # 6 to 10

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  1. And thus there is light.

FACTOR # 8 (revised): Thus there is light and consciousness.

Reference: The Factors # 6 to 10

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  1. And thus there is energy.

FACTOR # 9 (revised): Thus there is energy leading to activity.

Reference: The Factors # 6 to 10

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  1. And thus there is life.

FACTOR # 10 (revised): Thus there are activities of life.

Reference: The Factors # 6 to 10

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  1. But there are other viewpoints and these viewpoints out-thrust points to view. And there comes about an interchange amongst viewpoints; but the interchange is never otherwise than in terms of exchanging dimension points.

FACTOR # 11 (revised):  As beingness condenses from energy field to multiplicity of forms, the objective viewpoint of consciousness reduces to multiplicity of narrow subjective viewpoints.

Reference: The Factor # 11

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  1. The dimension point can be moved by the viewpoint, for the viewpoint, in addition to creative ability and consideration, possesses volition and potential independence of action; and the viewpoint, viewing dimension points, can change in relation to its own or other dimension points or viewpoints. Thus comes about all the fundamentals there are to motion.

FACTOR # 12: The objective viewpoint of consciousness may be restored by letting narrow subjective viewpoints consider all forms in a universal context and resolve any resulting inconsistencies.

Reference: The Factor # 12

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  1. The dimension points are each and every one, whether large or small, solid. And they are solid solely because the viewpoints say they are solid.

Factor # 13 (revised): Beingness condenses into enduring structures, which we see as dimension points of atoms and molecules, and viewpoints of their corresponding identities.

Reference: The Factors # 13 to 15

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  1. Many dimension points combine into larger gases, fluids or solids. Thus there is matter. But the most valued point is admiration, and admiration is so strong its absence alone permits persistence.

Factor #14 (revised): The dimension point evolves into complex forms of matter having gaseous, liquid and solid states. The viewpoint evolves as their identities. Admiration is viewing this wonderfully complex universe objectively for what it is.

Reference: The Factors # 13 to 15

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  1. The dimension point can be different from other dimension points and thus can possess an individual quality. And many dimension points can possess a similar quality, and others can possess a similar quality unto themselves. Thus comes about the quality of classes of matter.

Factor #15 (revised): The structural diversity of this universe may be arranged into classes.

Reference: The Factors # 13 to 15

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  1. The viewpoint can combine dimension points into forms and the forms can be simple or complex and can be at different distances from the viewpoints and so there can be combinations of form. And the forms are capable of motion and the viewpoints are capable of motion and so there can be motion of forms.

Factor # 16 (revised): As dimension point evolves into complex forms, the viewpoint evolves into complex properties that bring about self-animation.

Reference: The Factors # 16 to 18

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  1. And the opinion of the viewpoint regulates the consideration of the forms, their stillness or their motion, and these considerations consist of assignment of beauty or ugliness to the forms and these considerations alone are art.

Factor # 17 (revised): And evolution takes place from inanimate minerals to active plant life to animated animal life. Art studies their stillness or motion. Beauty lies in the continuity and harmony of their movement.

Reference: The Factors # 16 to 18

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  1. It is the opinion of the viewpoints that some of these forms should endure. Thus there is survival.

Factor # 18 (revised): It is the alignment and adjustment of the forms to the continuity and harmony of the whole system that determines their survival.

Reference: The Factors # 16 to 18

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  1. And the viewpoint can never perish; but the form can perish.

Factor # 19 (revised): Individual forms and viewpoints may perish, but the form and viewpoint of the overall universe can never perish.

Reference: The Factors # 19 to 21

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  1. And the many viewpoints, interacting, become dependent upon one another’s forms and do not choose to distinguish completely the ownership of dimension points and so comes about a dependency upon the dimension points and upon the other viewpoints.

Factor # 20 (revised): There are relationships among all the individual forms and their viewpoints in the universe. However, confusion may come about among these relationships.

Reference: The Factors # 19 to 21

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  1. From this comes a consistency of viewpoint of the interaction of dimension points and this, regulated, is TIME.

Factor # 21 (revised): As beingness becomes structured and acquires individual forms and viewpoints, TIME also acquires a fixed characteristic.

Reference: The Factors # 19 to 21

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  1. And there are universes.

Factor # 22 (revised): There may be many subjective universes; but there is only one objective universe.

Reference: The Factors # 22 to 24

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  1. The universes, then, are three in number: the universe created by one viewpoint, the universe created by every other viewpoint, the universe created by the mutual action of viewpoints which is agreed to be upheld—the physical universe.

Factor # 23 (revised): The viewpoints evolve from the universal field of beingness. They all converge toward the same objective viewpoint as their context broadens to become universal.

Reference: The Factors # 22 to 24

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  1. And the viewpoints are never seen. And the viewpoints consider more and more that the dimension points are valuable. And the viewpoints try to become the anchor points and forget that they can create more points and space and forms. Thus comes about scarcity. And the dimension points can perish and so the viewpoints assume that they, too, can perish.

Factor # 24 (revised): The viewpoints use dimension points as their frame of reference. When a frame of reference perishes then the associated viewpoint also perishes. But the universal frame of reference and the associated objective viewpoint never perish.

Reference: The Factors # 22 to 24

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  1. Thus comes about death.

Factor # 25 (revised): Death comes about when the form perishes. The viewpoint attached to the form also dies, but the universal objective viewpoint never di

Factor # 25 (revised): Death comes about when the form perishes. The viewpoint attached to the form also dies, but the universal objective viewpoint never dies.

Reference: The Factors # 25 to 30

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  1. The manifestations of pleasure and pain, of thought, emotion and effort, of thinking, of sensation, of affinity, reality, communication, of behaviour and being are thus derived and the riddles of our universe are apparently contained and answered herein.

Factor # 26 (revised): The riddle of human condition of beingness resolves as the fixations of viewpoints on perishable forms are resolved, and they broaden to become objective and universal.

Reference: The Factors # 25 to 30

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  1. There is beingness, but Man believes there is only becomingness.

Factor # 27 (revised): The ultimate beingness is attained by moving beyond the subjective viewpoint tied to the human body to arrive at the objectivity of the universal viewpoint.

Reference: The Factors # 25 to 30

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  1. The resolution of any problem posed hereby is the establishment of viewpoints and dimension points, the betterment of condition and concourse amongst dimension points, and, thereby, viewpoints, and the remedy of abundance or scarcity in all things, pleasant or ugly, by the rehabilitation of the ability of the viewpoint to assume points of view, and create and uncreate, neglect, start, change and stop dimension points of any kind at the determinism of the viewpoint. Certainty in all three universes must be regained, for certainty, not data, is knowledge.

Factor # 28 (revised): The resolution of any condition comes from viewing it in the broadest context possible. One resolves all fixations, doubts and perplexities through free association to align data, and by visualization to fill the gaps. One does this under the discipline of mindfulness. Objectivity needs to be attained through the establishment of universal consistency.

Reference: The Factors # 25 to 30

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  1. In the opinion of the viewpoint, any beingness, any thing, is better than no thing, any effect is better than no effect, any universe better than no universe, any particle better than no particle, but the particle of admiration is best of all.

Factor # 29 (revised): Beingness is always there. Admiration helps one attain and maintain any beingness with complete objectivity.

Reference: The Factors # 25 to 30

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  1. And above these things there might be speculation only. And below these things there is the playing of the game. But these things which are written here Man can experience and know. And some may care to teach these things and some may care to use them to assist those in distress and some may desire to employ them to make individuals and organizations more able and so give to Earth a culture of which we can be proud.

Factor # 30 (revised): This revision of Hubbard’s pioneering work is an attempt to make it consistent with Vedas and Buddha’s work. It is hoped that this effort shall bring about better understanding and more workable techniques to bring resolution to the human condition.

Reference: The Factors # 25 to 30

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Here are all the revised factors together:

FACTOR # 1 (revised): The theoretical beginning may be seen as the absence of all existence, physical or metaphysical, including any consideration, assumption, speculation or logic.

FACTOR # 2 (revised): The fundamental beingness is the existence of motion and emotion that is eternal without beginning or end.

FACTOR # 3 (revised): The viewpoint represents the inner essence of beingnesses, which begins as awareness.

FACTOR # 4 (revised): The dimension point represents the outer form of beingness, which begins as space.

FACTOR # 5 (revised): The “spread” of beingness from viewpoint to dimension point is defined by the dimension of abstraction.

FACTOR # 6 (revised): The dimension point evolves from space into interchanging electrical and magnetic fields.

FACTOR # 7 (revised): The viewpoint evolves from awareness into experiencing and associating.

FACTOR # 8 (revised): Thus there is light and consciousness.

FACTOR # 9 (revised): Thus there is energy leading to activity.

FACTOR # 10 (revised): Thus there are activities of life.

FACTOR # 11 (revised):  As beingness condenses from energy field to multiplicity of forms, the objective viewpoint of consciousness reduces to multiplicity of narrow subjective viewpoints.

FACTOR # 12: The objective viewpoint of consciousness may be restored by letting narrow subjective viewpoints consider all forms in a universal context and resolve any resulting inconsistencies.

Factor # 13 (revised): Beingness condenses into enduring structures, which we see as dimension points of atoms and molecules, and viewpoints of their corresponding identities.

Factor #14 (revised): The dimension point evolves into complex forms of matter having gaseous, liquid and solid states. The viewpoint evolves as their identities. Admiration is viewing this wonderfully complex universe objectively for what it is.

Factor #15 (revised): The structural diversity of this universe may be arranged into classes.

Factor # 16 (revised): As dimension point evolves into complex forms, the viewpoint evolves into complex properties that bring about self-animation.

Factor # 17 (revised): And evolution takes place from inanimate minerals to active plant life to animated animal life. Art studies their stillness or motion. Beauty lies in the continuity and harmony of their movement.

Factor # 18 (revised): It is the alignment and adjustment of the forms to the continuity and harmony of the whole system that determine their survival.

Factor # 19 (revised): Individual forms and viewpoints may perish, but the form and viewpoint of the overall universe can never perish.

Factor # 20 (revised): There are relationships among all the individual forms and their viewpoints in the universe. However, confusion may come about among these relationships.

Factor # 21 (revised): As beingness becomes structured acquiring individual forms and viewpoints, TIME also acquires a fixed characteristic.

Factor # 22 (revised): There may be many subjective universes; but there is only one objective universe.

Factor # 23 (revised): The viewpoints evolve from the universal field of beingness. They all converge toward the same objective viewpoint as their context broadens to become universal.

Factor # 24 (revised): The viewpoints use dimension points as their frame of reference. A viewpoint fixated on its frame of reference perishes when the frame of reference perishes.

Factor # 25 (revised): Thus death of viewpoint comes about when the form perishes, but the objective viewpoint having universe as its frame of reference never dies.

Factor # 26 (revised): The riddle of human condition of beingness resolves as the fixations on perishable forms are resolved, and viewpoint broadens to become universal.

Factor # 27 (revised): The ultimate beingness is attained as the viewpoint moves beyond narrow subjectivity of the human body to the objectivity of the universal context.

Factor # 28 (revised): The resolution of any condition comes from viewing it in the universal context and resolving all fixations, doubts and perplexities. This is done through free association to align data, and visualization to fill the gaps under the discipline of mindfulness. Objectivity is attained through universal continuity, harmony and consistency.

Factor # 29 (revised): Beingness is always there. Admiration helps one attain and maintain any beingness with complete objectivity.

Factor # 30 (revised): This revision of Hubbard’s pioneering work is an attempt to make it consistent with Vedas and Buddha’s work. It is hoped that this effort shall bring about better understanding and more workable techniques to bring resolution to the human condition.

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Major revision on 8/11/16
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  • Chris Thompson  On June 13, 2016 at 12:26 AM

    LOL submitted as humbly as Hubbard?

  • vinaire  On June 13, 2016 at 4:46 AM

    Hubbard is the pioneer here. I have total respect for his lead. I am just coming after his adventurous foray into an unknown territory, cleaning up a few things here and there.

  • christianscientology  On June 14, 2016 at 8:05 AM

    Dear Vinaire

    Just because cause and effect are “in such close relationship” they are still two separate things, hence they are expressed by two different words. Logic dictates that one must precede the other. Two objects may not occupy the same space at the same time if they do it will cause the vanishment of both objects.

    The hard scientist would have us believe that “the big bang” caused the universe to come into existence but that begs the question “what caused the big bang”.

    Man has intuitively believed there must be an “uncaused cause” before which we cannot go. Not only Semitic religions acknowledge the causeless cause, in fact it is gaining popularity in many quarters and is widely accepted as “the awareness of awareness”
    See Rupert Spira https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZ8tQYYNIg0

    Love
    Pip

    • vinaire  On June 14, 2016 at 12:59 PM

      Dear Pip,

      In my view it is an error to look at Cause and Effects as things, objects or beingness.

      Cause and effect are momentary characteristics of beingness.

      • christianscientology  On June 15, 2016 at 2:52 PM

        Hi Vinaire

        As you say “Cause and effect are momentary characteristics of beingness” and as such exist in time. We are talking about BEFORE TIME, that is BEFORE BEINGNESS. We are talking about PERSONHOOD – GOD- LIFE,TRUTH and LOVE.

        Love
        Pip

      • vinaire  On June 15, 2016 at 3:35 PM

        Before TIME there is no disturbance. There is uniformity of space all around. The essence of uniform space is uniform awareness. You may call it whatever you like that would not make any difference.

        But cause and effect have time associated with them. So there is neither cause nor effect before time.

        • Chris Thompson  On June 16, 2016 at 11:08 PM

          I see no problem with couching this discussion in terms of disturbance and no disturbance. While lacking in precision, it seems consistent and open to better precision in the future.

        • vinaire  On June 17, 2016 at 5:25 AM

          Well, we already know that disturbance is measured by “frequency” in Physics, and that gives us the electromagnetic spectrum. In Metaphysics, it seems that disturbance shall be measured by “affinity”, which gives us the Emotional Tone Scale.

          This is just an initial guess. Let’s see where it leads us to as a hypothesis.

        • Chris Thompson  On June 30, 2016 at 6:57 PM

          “This is just an initial guess. Let’s where it leads us to as a hypothesis.”

          On this vector, I have been practicing visualizing the 4 dimensional radiation of EMR. I mention this because we are fond of using the relatively 2D surface of liquids as a model. This is possibly good for a start, but the 4 dimensional model is not easy for me to visualize. Our eyes and minds see very differently from what I am trying to see. I have the best success when I acknowledge the 4th dimension as time, which is motion.

        • vinaire  On June 30, 2016 at 8:06 PM

          I shall be writing more on this subject in the current MP series.

        • Chris Thompson  On June 16, 2016 at 11:28 PM

          Cause and effect are innately cyclical. There is no beginning not any ending point to the discussion of this cycle.

          Factually, except for using abstraction (such as the abstract value of pi, doing the calculation), there is no natural absolute beginning not absolute ending to any process.

        • vinaire  On June 17, 2016 at 5:47 AM

          Yes. Cause and effect are innately cyclical. I visualize it like a cosmic bubble, surface of which represents Cause, and the inside volume represents the effect. Within that inside volume there can be many bubbles that can be interpreted the same way. And then inside each of those bubbles there can be many bubbles. This pattern can keep on going.

          In this model, the outer bubble cannot be “diffused” until all the inner bubbles are “diffused” first. A bubble is like a cycle. That cycle has to be completed before it can go away.

          There is no beginning and no end of the surface of the bubble. The bubble has to diffuse as a whole to complete the cycle. The bubble formed when air was pumped into it. It will diffuse only when air is let out of it.

          The surface of the bubble looked from inside represents time. Within that bubble time seems eternal with no begiining or end. We have no idea how the bubble was formed and how it could be diffused. Each bubble has its own time.

          Anyway, this is the sort of rough model I am working with.

        • Chris Thompson  On June 24, 2016 at 4:37 PM

          I like that model.

          I am also embracing that my human perception is narrower than the world of processes in which I live. My ability to “see things as they are” is naturally narrow but I do the best that I can to take what has accurately been described by others and try to use my imagination together with consistency to try to see further into the seething rolling storm which is our universe. It is a fun hobby.

        • Chris Thompson  On June 17, 2016 at 12:40 AM

          . . . and no time before disturbance….

        • vinaire  On June 17, 2016 at 5:50 AM

          In the “bubble model” there is no time outside the bubble.

        • Chris Thompson  On June 30, 2016 at 6:51 PM

          “In the “bubble model” there is no time outside the bubble.”

          Ah, yes. I understand.

        • christianscientology  On June 17, 2016 at 9:54 AM

          Hi Vinaire

          Yes I agree “before TIME there was no disturbance”, what I would refer to as harmony.

          From a Scientology point of view space cannot exist without “viewpoint of dimension” so what is doing the viewing? You seem not to differentiate between AWARENESS and AWARENESS of AWARENESS. Your arguments make complete sense in terms of awareness, but what we are discussing is what lies “back of” awareness, and that does not exist in space or time since it is the CREATOR of space and time, and matter and energy.

          Most “hard scientists” support the “big bang theory” which satisfies the human mind as to the origin of the universe, but it doesn’t satisfy the human spirit which inevitably askes “what preceded the big bang”. Of course the answer is nothing, however that nothing has to be written NO-THING and then we are back to GOD. Not that God exists but that GOD IS EXISTENCE.

          Love
          Pip

        • vinaire  On June 17, 2016 at 1:49 PM

          Viewpoint and dimension point come about only when space is disturbed. The space now denotes the difference between the viewpoint and dimension point. So, Hubbard is not looking at the space before it is disturbed. Hubbard doesn’t talk about this area. The way I am using the terminology here, it is consciousness, which requires a viewpoint. Awareness is neutral. Neither individuality, nor viewpoint exists at 40.0.

          “Awareness of awareness” is actually complex consciousness that evolves with disturbance, and comes much later at the level of identity. It is not something that lies at the back of awareness.

        • Chris Thompson  On June 30, 2016 at 6:46 PM

          “Yes I agree “before TIME there was no disturbance”, what I would refer to as harmony…Most “hard scientists” support the “big bang theory” which satisfies the human mind as to the origin of the universe, but it doesn’t satisfy the human spirit which inevitably asks “what preceded the big bang”. Of course the answer is nothing,. . .

          Without wavelengths, comparative wavelengths, there is no harmony. That is the physical essence of harmony. Satisfaction and dissatisfaction “of the human spirit” are commentaries on wavelengths. Saying that “of course the answer is nothing” is a big conjecture and essentially meaningless because what man can know is something, not “nothing.”

          The Great Zero in the Sky is a relativity. This is a productive vector to turn one’s direction. Practice with big and small numbers. Practice with positive and negative numbers. These arithmetic exercises loosen up one’s assumptions and consequently one’s thinking. Let’s try to relax and not to become frustrated with our demands for absolute answers and simply inquire objectively and sincerely. We have an entire universe that is actually just there to be discovered. We are just beginning, barely coming out of the awareness-nursery. Let’s not stop thinking prematurely because of the ache of not being instantly rewarded with consistent answers to the secrets of the universe. Ghostly conjectures are thought-stoppers, let’s just relax and let the questions arise as naturally as does life. ~Chris Thompson

    • Chris Thompson  On June 15, 2016 at 12:09 AM

      Not to be intentionally harsh, I believe it is fair to say that except for in the realm of human abstraction/imagination/delusion, there is no such thing as an uncaused cause. No example at all. I do so enjoy a good fantasy but I try to not confuse my fantasy with reality. But I remain receptive to anyone able to demonstrate it.

      • christianscientology  On June 15, 2016 at 2:58 PM

        Hi Chris

        Be as harsh as you like. I shall not comment on “abstraction or delusion” but imagination is a “gift from God”. If we are writing from a Scientological view point it is important to use definitions that are appropriate to the subject.

        I am using REALITY to mean “That we agree is”, as opposed to truth hence I differentiate between abstraction/delusion and imagination.

        Of course an uncaused cause cannot be demonstrated YOU ARE IT! The phrase comes to mind “None’s so blind that will not see”.

        Love
        Pip

        • Chris Thompson  On June 24, 2016 at 6:06 PM

          Pip,
          You are funny.

          “YOU ARE IT! The phrase comes to mind “None’s so blind that will not see”.”

          I love to laugh at pretension masquerading as wisdom.
          ~Chris Thompson

        • christianscientology  On June 27, 2016 at 5:33 AM

          Hi Chris

          “Pretension masquerading as wisdom” being laughable – I think I know what you mean.

          A couple of verses from scripture come to mind: 1 Corinthians 3:19 “For the wisdom of this world is foolishness to God” and Proverbs 1:7 “The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom” and just for good measure I might throw in Psalm 14:1 “The fool says in his heart ‘there is no God’”.

          Love
          Pip

        • Chris Thompson  On June 27, 2016 at 9:20 PM

          “A couple of verses from scripture come to mind: 1 Corinthians 3:19 “For the wisdom of this world is foolishness to God” and Proverbs 1:7 “The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom” and just for good measure I might throw in Psalm 14:1 “The fool says in his heart ‘there is no God’”.”

          Hey Pip, These quotes are thought-stopping political manipulation, nothing more. Do you have eyes to see what I see and to hear what I hear? That’s the argument you are making, isn’t it? Is my seeing and my hearing as valid as yours or is yours somehow superior, more acute, special? Haven’t you had enough of this thought stopping pretension? I have. ~Chris

        • vinaire  On June 24, 2016 at 6:40 PM

          Pip, looks like you are one of the very few who know themselves. Well done.

        • christianscientology  On June 27, 2016 at 5:34 AM

          Hi Vinaire

          It is one thing knowing one’s self and quite another manifesting that knowledge in the MEST UNIVERSE. I take heart that I am a work in progress and that God has not finished with me yet. Thanks for the validation.

          Love with understanding
          Pip

        • vinaire  On June 27, 2016 at 5:38 AM

          The only problem I see with your “understanding” is that it is subjective (for you alone) and not objective (consistent with reality).

        • christianscientology  On July 6, 2016 at 8:16 AM

          Hi Vinaire, I seem to have lost track of which post I am replying to. Perhaps if I just send them, you can make sense of where they belong.

          “Hello Vinaire

          That which is “consistent with reality” contains a lie. The fact is that God does not need to rely on reality to know the truth He is THE TRUTH, whether we agree or not.

          In reality we are ALONE, in truth we are AL-ONE.

          Love
          Pip”

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          “Hi Vinaire

          “Note: In Scientology it is considered that Theta (static) produces MEST (Kinetic). This implies that static ‘produces’ kinetic while it remains static. Such an idea is inherently inconsistent”

          I would argue that the reverse is the truth “Kinetic” has no meaning without static. Even in terms of a billiard ball and a table, unless the table is deemed to be static, the motion of the ball has no meaning.

          At the level of metaphysics without CONSCIOUSNESS there can be no M.E.S.T. Hence the inconsistency is the idea that there can be motion without no motion.

          As Jesus is believed to have expressed it “Be in the world not of the world”.

          Love
          Pip”

          P.S. My wife does the typing, so there is sometimes a comm.lag betrween my draft and her typing!

        • vinaire  On July 6, 2016 at 10:02 AM

          Saying, “God is THE TRUTH” is absolutism.

          Absolutism = any theory holding that values, principles, etc., are absolute and not relative, dependent, or changeable.

          Philosophy = the rational investigation of the truths and principles of being, knowledge, or conduct.

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          My understanding is that

          (1) Absolutes are unattainable. This means that nothing can be defined with absolute certainty. Any certainty that one holds is subject to re-examination in the face of inconsistency.

          (2) Philosophy is an investigation of what is really there. It makes progress by thoroughly examining inconsistencies to the point of eliminating them.

          Ref: https://vinaire.me/2012/07/14/absolutism-and-philosophy/
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    • vinaire  On June 15, 2016 at 7:12 AM

      “Uncaused cause” is an idea that is inherently inconsistent. It is used to explain something that cannot be explained. It is more of an explanation of something that is unknown.

      To give “uncaused cause” any more significance than a mere explanation is an error.

    • Chris Thompson  On June 24, 2016 at 5:58 PM

      Cause and effect are separate in the sense that the crest and trough if a wave are separate. So in other words, separate in abstraction but not physically.

      • vinaire  On June 24, 2016 at 6:38 PM

        Well said!

      • christianscientology  On June 27, 2016 at 5:32 AM

        Hi Chris

        Obviously Cause and effect are separate within our understanding of a three dimensional universe, however in terms of A CAUSE that preceded time as in The Factors we are talking about a concept that transcends both space and time. Hence the ultimate CAUSE expresses as EFFECT which in turn brings about cause and effect.

        Love
        Pip

        • Chris Thompson  On June 27, 2016 at 10:15 PM

          “Obviously Cause and effect are separate within our understanding of a three dimensional universe”

          This is not obvious, nor do I understand it to be correct. Within my understanding, cause and effect are continuous. It is a leap of faith to believe there is an ultimate beginning to anything because there is no example of that absolute in our experience. We can say that there is a beginning or an end to things, but this is a mental abstraction, a way of halting, quantifying. Like saying that the value of pi is 3.14. That is how I calculate in construction because it gets me close enough. I do not need an absolute for this purpose. Thus I abstract the value of pi to be 3.14, when it is really irrational and continuous 3.14… This is how I understand the universe as complex and irrational. World without end, Amen.

        • Chris Thompson  On June 27, 2016 at 10:31 PM

          “The Factors we are talking about a concept that transcends both space and time.”

          Yes, I understand this. But I do not agree with the model.

  • vinaire  On June 15, 2016 at 7:15 AM

    Cause and effect can best be explained as flows. Cause is an outward flow from a beingness. Effect is an inward flow into a beingness. There can be a beingness without outward or inward flows.

    It is an error to regard beingness itself as Cause or Effect.

    • christianscientology  On June 17, 2016 at 9:53 AM

      I agree Vinaire, both cause and effect are flows. However with out flows there can be no beingness, for with out flows all there is, is STATIC and that as per the Factors is what was BEFORE THE BEGINNING.

      Just as an aside, in the Bible beingness does not happen until Chapter II of Genesis where it says “Man became a living being”.

      Love
      Pip

    • vinaire  On June 17, 2016 at 10:07 AM

      Bible describes God as a beingness, whose doingness is to create the world, and the havingness is the world.

  • vinaire  On June 15, 2016 at 8:50 AM

    Hubbard says in Scn 8-8008:

    “On this tone-scale, we have a theoretical point of no energy at 40.0, and a point where energy begins to be solid around 0.0; well below this level we have matter formed of the type known in the material universe. Thus one can see that this tone-scale is a gradient scale of energy, and that the energy is free toward the top of the scale and becomes less free and more fixed as one descends the scale.”

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    This scale is brilliant. But Hubbard doesn’t see that this scale applied to spiritual the same way as it applies to physical. At 40.0 we have space and pure awareness. From 40.0 to 0.0 we have the energy and consciousness spectra. At 0.0 we have condensation of energy as well as that of consciousness into mass and identity respectively. The thetan is an aspect of identity at 0.0.

    Hubbard manufactured the concept of thetan from human bias as a total mish-mash.

    The earlier similar to this is the idea of “personal God” which is derived from the condensation of universal consciousness.

    Thus, “personal God” is an identity that would come about at 0.0 on the above scale.

    • christianscientology  On June 17, 2016 at 9:51 AM

      Hi Vinaire

      We have had this conversation before about the meaning of “personal God”. In a way it is unfortunate that we don’t have a better word for God than personal since the word personal comes from the word person and the root of the word person is the word PERSONA – which is a MASK.

      A better word is the Greek word HYPOSTASIS which means essence. The word I prefer is PERSONHOOD. That is what God is and you and I am. You and I as personas may well come in at 0.0 but that is because we are playing the role of THETANS but our TRUE identity is THETA.

      Love
      Pip

      • vinaire  On June 23, 2016 at 8:51 AM

        Dear PIP,

        Theta is not an identity because identities appear as discrete entities. Theta can be divided into discrete entities only after it condenses at 0.0 into thetan. It cannot be divided until then.

        Thetan then assumes individual identities. Here we have the whole evolutionary chain of forms at the peak of which is the human identity. A human being has both physical and spiritual aspects that are integrated into a single person. The spiritual essence cannot be separated from the physical form. The feeling of exteriorization is juat an “apparency”. The truth is unfixing of attention from the body.

        This attention forms the viewpoint of the person that can rise from 0.0 to 40.0. This viewpoint uses the body as a reference point to feel grounded. Psychoses results when the viewpoint is not so grounded.

        The God as viewed in Christianity is the idealization of the viewpoint at 40.0. This idealization comes down to 20.0 when God creates the material world. The material world is, of course, at Tone level of 0.0.

        So, you may apply your idea of “essence” to this idealizaton of viewpoint. That is the Christian ‘God’.

        • christianscientology  On July 6, 2016 at 7:55 AM

          Hi Vinaire

          I agree that Theta is not an identity in as much that it creates identities. My understanding of Theta is UNCONDITIONAL LOVE which is the SOURCE of every-THING, of all identities. Hence “In the beginning was the decision and the decision was TO BE.

          Love
          Pip

        • vinaire  On July 6, 2016 at 7:59 AM

          Hi Pip,

          I am currently writing an “MP” series to clarify all the confusion surrounding Theta and MEST. Please see

          https://vinaire.me/2016/07/01/metaphysics-the-disturbance-theory/
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    • vinaire  On June 17, 2016 at 10:00 AM

      Theta spans the scale from 40.0 to 0.0 at which point it condenses into thetan. At 40.0 we have pure awareness that becomes consciousness as desire enters into it. Pure awareness is a desireless state.

      Affinity is the defining characteristic of consciousness, the same way that frequency is the defining characteristic of electromagnetism. Time introduces frequency in space creating electromagnetism. Similarly, desire introduces affinity in awareness creating consciousness.

      Frequency produces an electromagnetic spectrum consisting of Radio waves, Microwaves, Light waves, X-rays and Gamma rays. Similarly, affinity produces a Tone Scale consisting of a whole range of emotions from Serenity to Apathy.

      These emotions are found to follow a cycle of unfixed, fixed and dispersed attention. Unfixed is the general state of attention, which becomes fixed when a situation comes to notice and the attention is devoted to resolving it. The attention gets dispersed upon a failure to resolve the situation.

  • vinaire  On June 20, 2016 at 10:44 AM

    The last paragraph of the Section “Terminals” in the book Scientology 8-8008, finally provides the insight into what Hubbard is trying to achieve through Scientology. Here is my summation.

    Hubbard is saying that objective reality is actually a subjective reality that is being shared by everyone. In other words, the “objective” reality is the outcome of shared filters instead of an absence of filters.

    Being a hypnotist, Hubbard knew that individual reality can be changed through hypnotism. Under hypnotism the hypnotist manipulates the filters of the individual to change his reality.

    Hubbard hoped that even the objective reality could be changed if one could manipulate the filters en masse. Thus, one could bring a desired reality. This has been the goal of Scientology.

    So, here is a comparison of Buddhism (mindfulness) to Scientology.

    Buddhism (mindfulness) = Arrive at the objective reality by removing all filters. This shall resolve all suffering..

    Scientology = Create a desired reality by installing certain filters on everybody. This will make everyone a powerful individual. This is the OT.
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    • vinaire  On June 20, 2016 at 10:47 AM

      In a way, the Semitic religions also have had a goal similar to Scientology.

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  • Chris Thompson  On June 24, 2016 at 4:42 PM

    I have been introducing myself to epigenetics.

  • vinaire  On June 27, 2016 at 6:08 AM

    Cause and Effect may appear to be separate in our subjective understanding. But objectively they are not separate. No instance can be demonstrated where Cause may exist on its own independent of time and effect..

    Cause is occurrence of a change. When there is change, there is also time; and there is also effect. Therefore, Cause is always accompanied by time and effect.

    Any idea that Cause may exist before time is subjective only. It may be accompanied by an erroneous concept of time.

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    • christianscientology  On July 6, 2016 at 8:02 AM

      Except when it is before time and then it is that which has the entire purpose of the creation of effect.

      • vinaire  On July 6, 2016 at 10:05 AM

        The phrase “before time” is self-contrdictory like “Uncaused cause” and “Unmoved mover”.

  • vinaire  On June 27, 2016 at 6:21 AM

    1 Corinthians 3:19 “For the wisdom of this world is foolishness to God”
    Proverbs 1:7 “The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom”
    Psalm 14:1 “The fool says in his heart ‘there is no God’”.

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    A fool really has no objective concept of God. He parades around his subjective concept of God making others wrong and himself right.

    God is an abstract concept, but the fool makes God into a humanlike person who mysteriously makes things out of thin air. He gives humanlike intentions to God. He presents God as a humanlike person to be feared.

    Objectively, God is infinite and, therefore, God cannot be defined. Many followers of Semitic religions try to define God in human terms, but that is an error.

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    • christianscientology  On July 6, 2016 at 8:01 AM

      Vinaire

      I agree that God cannot be defined in human terms, that’s why I do not call myself “A Christian”. I see myself as “A follower of the Way”. I am told a perfectly good translation of “I am the way the truth and the life, would be “I AM is the Way the Truth and the Life.

      None of us can have an “objective concept of God” unless God reveals Himself to us, and He has done just that in The Lord Jesus Christ. There is a saying in Christianity – GOD BECAME MAN SO THAT MAN MIGHT BECOME GOD.

      • vinaire  On July 6, 2016 at 8:12 AM

        I think that Scientology started quite scientifically in an attempt to understand the universal reality but it then got blindsided by religious filters of Hubbard.

        Here is how I have introduced my “MP” series:

        The American religion of Scientology claims to take a scientific approach to the understanding of human “self” and the realization of its potential. But how scientific is it?

        Scientology seems to have been effective in helping many thousands of people get rid of their psychosomatic ills and personal problems through its auditing procedures, but it has also fallen far short of fulfilling its promise of producing Operating Thetans (humans of much higher intelligence and super abilities).

        Whether the approach in Scientology is completely scientific or not, it does provide a workable model for improving human conditions. This “MP project” examines the fascinating model of “human spirit and the material universe”, as presented in the book Scientology 8-8008.

        The purpose of this project is to conduct a careful, systematic study of the theory of Scientology philosophy as presented in Scientology 8-8008. The basic idea is to arrive at a model for metaphysical reality that is scientifically consistent.

        Ref: https://vinaire.me/2016/07/04/mp-0-introduction/

  • vinaire  On July 1, 2016 at 3:24 PM

    I have modified my comment under Factor #1.

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  • vinaire  On July 6, 2016 at 9:22 AM

    Cause and effect are elements of consciousness (emotion), just like electrical and magnetic influences are elements of energy (motion). This is explained in “MP 4”

    Ref: https://vinaire.me/2016/07/01/mp-4-the-kinetic-condition/
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  • vinaire  On July 9, 2016 at 4:46 PM

    Cause-effect always occurs in pair. It has to do with sequencing and programming that ultimately brings about a structure.

    At the highest level there is the consideration of pure programming. Above that level there is simply no programming.

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