SCN 8-8008: Always-Never

This paper presents Section 32 from the book SCIENTOLOGY 8-8008 by L. RON HUBBARD. The contents are from the original publication of this book by The Church of Scientology (1952).

The paragraphs of the original material (in black) are accompanied by brief comments (in color) based on the present understanding.  Feedback on these comments is appreciated.

The heading below is linked to the original materials.



We have already seen that objects give us the illusion of time. The ability to create objects is interchangeable with the ability to have an actual forever.

“Always” is a structure that has acquired permanence. “Never” is something that does not persist at all. Matter persists for a very long time. A person able to create material objects is likely to believe in a forever.

There would be an illusory forever which would be dependent upon the duration of an object and its apparent solidity. One might also say that the MEST universe seeks to own one by pretending that immortality is something difficult to buy and is only purchased by achieving an identity or being an object. The ultimate in this is, of course, being a part of the MEST universe. One might say jocularly that every planet in the MEST universe was once one or more people. A considerable reaction can be got from a preclear by making him conceive a feeling of devotion toward the “older” gods who were here and who built this universe and who have left it to him. Deeply religious feelings are very often based upon this idea. Some astonishing reactions can occur in a preclear when running this concept.

A person may believe that a physical identity would persist forever just as objects do. He may, therefore, attempt to acquire a physical identity. Religious feelings are often associated with devotion to “gods” who built this universe and left it for him

The real way to be assured of a great deal of time is to be able, of course, to create time, and this would be to a thetan the true concept of always. Time is created, at least in this universe, by creating energy and objects, and by being able to make the universe agree with oneself, not by having the universe continually making one agree with it.

Time is associated with duration of objects. Thus, assurance of time comes from being able to create objects. The idea is to control one’s environment rather than be controlled by it.



The sense of “always” comes from being able to control one’s environment.


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