Philosophical Beginning

To have a universe it must be considered first. And it must be considered from Unknowable that is beyond consideration.

NOTE: No definition for Unknowable is provided here other than that it is a view without any prior consideration.

A universe would consist of beingness and the awareness of that beingness. Unknowable (Nirvana) would be beyond any consideration of beingness and awareness.

Note: Here the use of the word “awareness” implies “awareness of beingness.” Some philosophies use the word awareness in the sense of awareness of awareness. That meaning is not implied here.

The universe would start with the assumption of BEINGNESS. The moment universe comes into BEING it becomes AWARE of itself. At that moment beingness transforms into IDENTITY, and awareness transforms into VIEWPOINT.

Note: The use of the word “viewpoint” implies a point of view, or considerations about something, such as, “a viewpoint of women.” Using “viewpoint” strictly in the sense of a location one is viewing from is a narrower interpretaton.

From the viewpoint:

  1. This identity has dimensions that define it. That is its SPACE.

  2. This identity persists. That persistence is its TIME.

  3. This identity appears to be active. That activity is ENERGY.

  4. This identity impinges through senses. That impingement is MATTER.

The universe, which comes into existence, is a system of IDENTITY, VIEWPOINT, SPACE, TIME, ENERGY and MATTER.

These components may be regarded as concrete or “physical.”

The corresponding abstractions in terms of BEINGNESS, AWARENESS, DEFINITION, PERSISTENCE, ACTIVITY and IMPINGEMENT may be regarded as “spiritual.”

“Physical” and “spiritual” are two aspects of the same system.


Addition Nov 14, 2022:

(1) For a viewpoint, which is part of a cycle, what is beyond the cycle is UNKNOWABLE.

(2) The universe is the superset of all cycles. According to the Vedas, the universe is also cyclic.

(3) We are part of the cycle of the universe. Our viewpoint lies within the universe.

(4) We can never know what is beyond the universe. This is UNKNOWABLE.

(5) We may only speculate about the UNKNOWABLE. That speculation becomes knowable, but the UNKNOWABLE remains unknowable.

(6) What we refer to as GOD is UNKNOWABLE. All that we attribute to GOD are our speculations only. We know these speculations only and not GOD.



To consider is to examine what is there and give it a shape through visualization. A consideration is the shape given as a structure of associations. The moment something is triggered by the unknowable, it is defined in the mind by considerations.

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  • anonymuse  On July 10, 2010 at 8:56 AM

    Excelent text.

    I see space diferently, though. From my perspective space is also a spiritual consideration and goes even beyond considerations for it is capable of sustaining them. Space is what allows anything to be and take place. I have space inside and outside anything I consider. There is space in and out the boundaries. Hence space is the place, the time and the core of all phenomena.

    Space would be a neutral element that connects all the others.


    • vinaire  On July 10, 2010 at 12:24 PM

      I would rather say spiritual has to do with creating the consideration in the first place and then viewing it. It may be said that the consideration contains within itself both creativity and awareness. In my view “spiritual” is a characteristic that doesn’t exist independent of consideration. It is part of the system called “consideration.”



  • lakey  On July 10, 2010 at 10:46 AM

    I agree with the above. In one of Vin’s early threads, he put out for consideration the concept that space was related to or defined by “separation”. He suggested that space was created when there was separation within a spiritual entity such as a splintering off of a piece of spirit from a main body of spirit. I liked this concept and seem to be able to work with it. To me a good graphic analogy would be to run your computer’s curson down a page to a certain length and then hit the ENTER key. That action defines a page length and connects everything which appears on the page.


    • vinaire  On July 11, 2010 at 7:43 AM

      “Separation” is the key characeristic of space. If there is no separation then everything would probably end up at a point. That point would have no dimensions, or, in other words, nothing would be definable.

      In my opinion, “spiritual entity” is a consideration. As a consideration it has its own space. “Splintering of spiritual entity” is another consideration that derives its space from the space of the previous consideration.



  • alex  On July 10, 2010 at 11:22 AM

    Space is an idea we use to have things in. It doesnt really exist independent of consciousness.


    • vinaire  On July 10, 2010 at 12:13 PM

      I would rather say that space is a characteristic that doesn’t exist independent of consideration. The consideration has a scope. The consideration exists within that scope. The scope may then be categorized as space. Space then “contains” the consideration. 🙂


      • alex  On July 10, 2010 at 4:15 PM


        Space is concept we use to organize certain types of thought.

        Consideration, the act of consciousness, creates it

        I would say that the act is not in the space, but that the space is a subset of the act or consideration. The created subordinate to the creator.


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