SCN 8-8008: Win-Lose

This paper presents Section 39 from the book SCIENTOLOGY 8-8008 by L. RON HUBBARD. The contents are from the original publication of this book by The Church of Scientology (1952).

The paragraphs of the original material (in black) are accompanied by brief comments (in color) based on the present understanding.  Feedback on these comments is appreciated.

The heading below is linked to the original materials.



It is noteworthy that as the preclear ascends the tone-scale, his desire to win increases. Those low on the tone-scale, even when they think they are trying to win, will almost uniformly set up their problems and solutions so that they will lose.

Homo sapiens has little converse with true competence. There is an astonishing level of winningness above 4.0 where competence becomes a joy like poetry.

As a person rises on the tone-scale he accomplishes what he sets his mind to more often. It is not just a matter of desire. It is a matter of improved competence. At lower levels a person may desire to win but he fails because his competence is not up to the task.

Regret of competence ensues when one has employed competence to injure another being drastically. The duellist begins with joy in competence of sword-handling and before long, because of the counter-emotion he receives from his practice of the art, conceives disgust for competence. In a later life, he will carry this into everything he does, so fearing that he will employ competence to injure that he dares not practice competence in the smallest things; and by failing to practice competence, so introduces losingness, to the injury of himself and others. A man who instinctively recoils from competence and perfection, at the wheel of a car, will sometimes cause an accident rather than avoid one if competence of a high order is required in the avoidance.

If a person is competent he would be careful not to cause drastic injuries. If he fails to be competent and causes drastic injuries then, he would, naturally, move away from that field of work.

To win one must wish to win; when one no longer desires to win, one no longer desires to live. (Note—The remaining three columns of the chart of attitudes are covered broadly in the earlier text.)

If a person wants to win he would acquire the needed competence.



Winning requires the passion to excel in one’s chosen area. If that passion is there then one would work hard to acquire the needed competence. Loss occurs when the passion is not there. Passion can die when one has made drastic mistakes and caused injuries.


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