Souls, Between-lives, Dark Energy & Matter

These concepts are mystical and seem to be over the top. They are part of the ancient to most modern beliefs. Here are some wild conjectures emerging as a result of discussions on this blog:

(1) Soul is a set of mental energies and forces released after the physical death of a body. This is discussed further in The Self and the Soul.

(2) The body is made up of macromolecules that have a physical structure, as well as programming capabilities in the  configuration of that structure. 

(3) The various programming patterns allows the macromolecules to function as molecular computers and regulate the physical and mental functions of the body.

(4) The physical structure may represent “physical energies and forces,” whereas, this programming may represent the “mental energies and forces,” that make up the “I.” This is discussed further in The Structure of “I”.

(5) The soul of a person comprises of these mental energies and forces (programming patterns), which when functioning in a live body, may be considered to be alive.

(6) After death the physical body is reduced to a number of physical organs that gradually disintegrate into physical elements. A single physical entity is no longer there.

(7) Similarly, after death, the soul of a person is reduced to a number of programming patterns that remain. A single spiritual entity is no longer there.

(8) The soul to be alive, needs to be manifesting itself through a live body. After death, neither the soul nor the body are alive.

(9) Any identity that existed as “I” is extinguished at death.

(10) After death, the soul seems to get “stored” in space as numerous individual programming patterns . 

(11) These programming patterns are “retrieved” back from space just before birth. They are retrieved in a combination that is compatible with the physical structure of the new body.

(12) A new identity comes into being only after the physical and mental aspects have recombined in a new body. 

(13) Past life memories and child prodigies may be explained in terms of the mental patterns obtained from previous souls.  The new “soul” may be looked upon as a recombination of previous souls.

(14) Apparently, there is no “life”  in the “between-lives” area. There are only numerous programming patterns stored in space.

(15) How these programming patterns come to be stored in space requires another wild conjecture. Space is not nothing. Space is something.

(16) The ripples in the “fabric of space” are the electromagnetic waves that contribute to the formation of matter, while the fabric itself seem to contributes to the characteristics that regulate the behavior of matter.

(17) The stored patterns in the fabric of space influence not only humans but also the plant, animal and marine life.

(18) Certain aspect of these patterns may even be responsible for the Periodic Table of elements.

(19) These patterns probably are the blueprint of the universe, which exists as space. 

(20) The postulated dark energy and matter could very well be the programming patterns from dead souls stored in space.


I admit this is as wild as it can be. Note that this conjecture is not entirely materialistic. We still don’t know how all this comes to be this way. There is a spiritual dimension to it all.


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  • vinaire  On October 1, 2012 at 5:50 AM

    I have cleaned up the above presentation a little bit. Hope it makes better sense. All questions are welcome.



  • vinaire  On October 1, 2012 at 12:57 PM

    It seems that spiritualism and materialism is not an either or proposal, Both aspects of philosophy can be present simultaneously with a line dividing them.

    Materialism is the known aspect that can be grasped directly. Spiritualism is the unknown aspect that is being speculated upon. As these speculations yield concrete theories, those speculations are subtracted from spiritualism and concrete theories are added to materialism.

    Thus, with advancement of knowledge there seem to be a continual conversion going on from spiritualism to materialism. The line between materialism and spiritualism thus keeps on advancing per this conversion with advancement of knowledge.


  • vinaire  On October 2, 2012 at 5:55 AM

    Here is further discussion on this essay on another blog:




  • Brian  On January 23, 2013 at 7:04 PM

    Have you looked at this book?:

    7,000 cases of life between life regression…


    • vinaire  On January 23, 2013 at 7:15 PM

      No, I haven’t looked that book, but I know that pieces of dead souls that get incorporated into a new soul may give the mistaken idea that a person has lived before.



    • vinaire  On January 23, 2013 at 8:46 PM

      I think I read excerpts from this book in a thread on ESMB. So I know what you are talking about.




  • bandapooch  On August 13, 2013 at 6:52 PM

    I think whats really interesting is that a dying star pumps out all the elements that make up a living beings and we can discern which elements make up our body, but there is no explanation for our souls which really are what make us the individuals that we are. So there really must be a missing or invisible element which our souls are comprised of. If dark matter is real, but unexplained, couldnt that be the invisible element which makes our soul? It would make some sense….


  • vinaire  On August 13, 2013 at 7:52 PM

    The soul seems to lie in the dimension of abstraction. It is a pattern underlying the concrete manifestations. It could very well be hiding in the electronic configurations of the macromolecules that make up the body.

    KHTK Model of The Universe



  • vinaire  On March 2, 2015 at 3:02 PM

    Here is a response to Brian on Marty’s Blog.

    Brian, I do remember the discussion but you were arguing about the existence of souls, which was not a point of contention for me. You were simply not listening to what I was saying.

    Here is my position.

    (1) Soul does exist, but it is not permanent.

    (2) Soul exists only in the live body. The human-centric view likes to believe that it will continue after death.

    (3) After death soul disintegrates into soul “elements” just like body disintegrates into body “elements.”

    (4) It is the soul “elements” that continue after death, similar to the fact that body “elements” continue after death, even as atom and molecules.

    (5) Soul “elements” then get used up in the construction of new souls, similar to the fact that body “elements” get used up in the construction of new bodies.

    Now I have oversimplified it above just to get the point across that souls are not permament. This is consistent with Vedas and basic Hinduism and Buddhism, though you may find many people in the East even misinterpreting the Vedas. Buddha emphasized this point because it was being misinterpreted by Hindus of his time. Buddha simply went back to the original Vedas from which Hinduism was derived.

    To summarze, souls do exist, but they exist in the live body only. Souls are not permanent. Souls disintegrate when death occurs.

    There are other explanations for “past life” memories in terms of genetic programming from past bits of souls and bodies.

    An immortal soul or eternal thetan is as much a fiction as is Xenu.


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