There is a lot more beyond what one perceives as FAITH.

Faith is simply some STABLE DATUM that is serving to align otherwise random data for a person. Without that faith other data would seem to be quite confusing. A faith is as valuable to a person as it is restraining his/her confusion.

If you are able to look at the confusion you had, just before you acquired your faith, you will understand what I am talking about.

But a faith can be superseded by a higher-level faith which is able to align a lot more data for a person.

The point I am making is that the subject of faith is a very dynamic subject. If a person’s faith is remaining quite rigid over a period of time then there is something wrong with it.

A faith is only as valuable as the amount of confusion it is able to restrain. A person who is rigidly holding on to a faith is barely able to restrain his/her confusion. That person avoids looking at inconsistencies because they seem to threaten the existing faith. The person knows that if he allows his/her faith to be shaken he would suddenly be swamped with a tremendous amount of confusion.

An intelligent person would always search for a better STABLE DATUM that is able to align greater amount of confusion, while holding to the existing stable datum. Such a person is gradually able to improve upon the existing faith and strengthen it further.

One should not be afraid of examining inconsistencies. All it may do is possibly disturb one’s faith but toward a higher faith.


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  • Chris Thompson  On August 26, 2012 at 2:15 PM

    Faith: Whatever keeps us centered.

    You’ve put this in a very good perspective. My own Faith is that there is a Higher Truth — a higher-consistency-to-be-seen-if-I-look. This means that I am consistently looking for inconsistencies in my extant Truth. When I find them it is a source of joy and a reason for celebration.

    When I was a boy, I helped finish furniture for my oldest brother. This required a lot of sanding. I used my hand to feel the wood I was sanding for inconsistencies. This might have been named the doctrine of Rough Wood.

    Saint Peter said it this way, “On this Rock I will build my Church.” He meant the doctrine of the Blood of Christ, but his words work just as well for me when I mean the doctrine of the Rotten Apple. By this I mean the rotten apple represents the inconsistent datum in a more or less consistent field of thought.


  • vinaire  On August 26, 2012 at 8:35 PM

    I like your doctrine of Rough Wood.



  • anon  On August 27, 2012 at 1:04 AM

    the search for truth does not begin from certainty but from uncertainty


    • vinaire  On August 27, 2012 at 6:46 AM

      That is true, but then people are so certain about their beliefs that they overlook inconsistencies.

      So, if there is a rough patch of wood at a certain location, he would say that it is supposed to be that way at that location.

      They just have to take one more simple step and see, “What confusion is that belief restraining for me?” “How does this inconsistency relate to that confusion?” “Is there a better common denominator here?”



    • Chris Thompson  On August 27, 2012 at 1:35 PM

      Yes of course, but it is more important to homo sapiens to be certain than to wonder.


  • vinaire  On August 27, 2012 at 7:09 AM

    Spot the stable datum and the inconsistency in the following examples.

    *A DC ‘airport ticket agent’ offers some examples of why the US is in
    so much trouble!* *

    1.*I had a New Hampshire Congresswoman (Carol Shea-Porter) ask for an aisle
    seat so that her hair wouldn’t messed up by being near the window. (On
    an airplane!) *

    2. *I got a call from a Kansas Congressman’s (Moore) staffer (Howard
    Bauleke), who wanted to go to Cape Town*. I started to explain the length
    of the flight and the passport information, and then he interrupted me
    with, ”I’m not trying to make you look stupid, but Cape Town is in
    Massachusetts ..” *

    Without trying to make him look stupid, I calmly explained, ”Cape Cod is
    in Massachusetts , Cape Town is in South Africa ..” *

    3.* A senior Vermont Congressman (Bernie Sanders) called, furious about a
    Florida package we did. I asked what was wrong with the vacation in Orlando
    . He said he was expecting an ocean-view room. I tried to explain that’s
    not possible, since Orlando is in the middle of the state.

    He replied, ‘Don’t lie to me!, I looked on the map, and Florida is a very
    THIN state!!” (OMG) *

    4.* I got a call from a lawmaker’s wife (Landra Reid) who asked, ”Is it
    possible to see England from Canada ?”

    I said, ”No.” She said, ”But they look so close on the map” (OMG,
    again!) *

    5.* An aide for a cabinet member (Janet Napolitano) once called and asked
    if he could rent a car in Dallas .. I pulled up the reservation and noticed
    he had only a 1-hour layover in Dallas … When I asked him why he wanted
    to rent a car, he said, ”I heard Dallas was a big airport, and we will
    need a car to drive between gates to save time.” (Aghhhh) *

    6.* An Illinois Congresswoman (Jan Schakowsky) called last week. She needed
    to know how it was possible that her flight from Detroit left at 8:30 a.m.,
    and got to Chicago at 8:33 a.m.

    I explained that Michigan was an hour ahead of Illinois , but she couldn’t
    understand the concept of time zones. Finally, I told her the plane went
    fast, and she bought that. *

    7.* A New York lawmaker, (Jerrold Nadler) called and asked, ”Do airlines
    put your physical description on your bag so they know whose luggage
    belongs to whom?” I said, ‘No, why do you ask?’

    He replied, ”Well, when I checked in with the airline, they put a tag on
    my luggage that said (FAT), and I’m overweight. I think that’s very rude!”

    After putting him on hold for a minute, while I looked into it. (I was
    dying laughing). I came back and explained the city code for Fresno , Ca.
    is (FAT – Fresno Air Terminal), and the airline was just putting a
    destination tag on his luggage.. *

    8.* A Senator John Kerry aide (Lindsay Ross) called to inquire about a trip
    package to Hawaii . After going over all the cost info, she asked, ”Would
    it be cheaper to fly to California and then take the train to Hawaii ?” *

    9.* I just got off the phone with a freshman Congressman, Bobby Bright from
    Ala. who asked, ”How do I know which plane to get on?”

    I asked him what exactly he meant, to which he replied, ”I was told my
    flight number is 823, but none of these planes have numbers on them.” *

    10* Senator Dianne Feinstein called and said, ”I need to fly to Pepsi-Cola
    , Florida . Do I have to get on one of those little computer planes?”

    I asked if she meant fly to Pensacola and fly on a commuter plane. She
    said, ”Yeah, whatever, smarty!” *

    11* Mary Landrieu, La. Senator, called and had a question about the
    documents she needed in order to fly to China . After a lengthy discussion
    about passports, I reminded her that she needed a visa. “Oh, no I don’t.
    I’ve been to China many times and never had to have one of those.”

    I double checked and sure enough, her stay required a visa. When I told her
    this she said, ”Look, I’ve been to China four times and every time they
    have accepted my American Express!” *

    12* A New Jersey Congressman (John Adler) called to make reservations, ”I
    want to go from Chicago to Rhino, New York .”

    I was at a loss for words. Finally, I said, ”Are you sure that’s the name
    of the town?”

    ‘Yes, what flights do you have?” replied the man.

    After some searching, I came back with, ”I’m sorry, sir, I’ve looked up
    every airport code in the country and can’t find a rhino anywhere.”

    ”The man retorted, ”Oh, don’t be silly! Everyone knows where it is. Check
    your map!”

    So I scoured a map of the state of New York and finally offered, ”You
    don’t mean Buffalo , do you?”

    The reply? ”Whatever! I knew it was a big animal.”


  • vinaire  On August 27, 2012 at 7:24 AM

    See what you can spot in the following:


    Religious Fanatics

    Ole is the Pastor of the local Norwegian Lutheran Church and Pastor Sven is the minister of the Swedish Covenant Church across the road.

    One day they are seen pounding a sign into the ground, which says:


    As a car speeds past them, the driver leans out his window and yells, “Leave people alone, you Skandihoovian religious nuts!”

    From the curve they hear screeching tires and a big splash.

    Shakin’ his head, Rev. Ole says “Oh Oh! Dat didn’t work.”

    “Yaa,” Pastor Sven agrees, then asks, “Do ya tink maybe DA sign should yust say, ‘STOP! Da Bridge Ahead Is Vashed Avay?



  • vinaire  On January 3, 2020 at 4:42 PM


    These two words are often used synonymously but there are differences between them. For example, Belief appears to be concrete and absolute in a person’s thinking, whereas faith seems to be more abstract and open ended. Jesus was white, as depicted in most churches, seems to be a belief. You cannot describe it as faith.

    One can have faith in the teaching of Jesus. I find those teachings very valuable myself. They contain great truths. But the belief that “Jesus is the only way to salvation” is more about symbols.

    All religions share the faith in salvation being possible, even when their beliefs are different. You may find that religions share the truths also; only difference being how those truths are symbolized.

    Beliefs deal more with symbols, whereas faith is about the underlying truth.


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