The Nature of Phenomenon

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Reference: Atoms, Points and Souls
  1. Spiritual awareness and physical space are two aspects of the same reality. These two aspects came about simultaneously.

  2. Consciousness arose with disturbance in awareness, just like electromagnetism arose with disturbance in space.

  3. Consciousness may be called fabric of awareness (self-awareness), just like electromagnetism may be called the fabric of space.

It is an error to think that spiritual and physical phenomena are independent of each other, and to speculate on which came first, or which produced the other.

Addition #1

The electromagnetic disturbance, which is spread over the electromagnetic spectrum, generates complex fablic of space. Parallelling this, the consciousness (disturbance in awareness), which is spread over a similar spectrum, generates complex fabric of awareness.

“Awareness-Space” and “Consciousness-Electromagnetism” is the same reality just spread over the Abstraction scale.

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  • 2ndxmr  On September 18, 2015 at 1:03 PM

    V:”Spiritual awareness and physical space are two aspects of the same reality.”

    The physical space of this physical universe is far more complex than the space of the emerging awareness. The accurate definition of the space of the awareness unit has been a problem that I’ve been wrestling with for several years.

    Just for a base datum I will call the awareness unit space AU space as opposed to Physical Universe space which we call PU space. Also, I’ll refer to awareness units as AU’s.

    The complex PU space is most likely made from combinations of AU space.

    One of the things AU’s would have discovered as they evolved was that they could both make their space vibrate and take on geometric shapes.

    In proper combinations, vibrating geometrical spaces would have the properties of what physicists call fields.

    What physicists see as the background of the PU is a set of fields from which energy and matter condense.

    Thus, what we have to get to the origin of in this PU is the origin of the known fields.

    Simply speaking, it is much more likely that evolved AU’s created this field structure than that the complex field structure arose on its own.

    • vinaire  On September 18, 2015 at 2:08 PM

      I see awareness and space as the two ends of an abstraction scale.

      I see spiritual as an abstraction of physical.
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      • 2ndxmr  On September 18, 2015 at 4:02 PM

        You’re not addressing the point that PU fields are complex, interacting yet distinct, and need a causal origin.

        • vinaire  On September 18, 2015 at 5:10 PM

          Complexity comes from all type of frequencies of the electromagnetic disturbance that spread over the electromagnetic spectrum.

          Parallelling this are all type of frequencies of consciousness (disturbance in awareness) that also spread over a similar spectrum.

          In other words, there is a disturbance scale that widens out along the abstraction scale. So, consciousness and electromagnetism form the two ends of the abstraction scale.

        • vinaire  On September 18, 2015 at 5:11 PM

          All fundamental particles of the standard model are created of this complexity formed by electromagnetic disturbance.
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        • 2ndxmr  On September 18, 2015 at 6:17 PM

          V:”Complexity comes from all type of frequencies of the electromagnetic disturbance that spread over the electromagnetic spectrum.”

          You might be able to define a musical note by such a synthesis, but this description is not adequate to describe function at the quantum level.

          “All fundamental particles of the standard model are created of this complexity formed by electromagnetic disturbance.”

          Reference? Proof?

        • vinaire  On September 18, 2015 at 6:19 PM

          The proof is that there is nothing else to form them.
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        • 2ndxmr  On September 18, 2015 at 6:42 PM

          “The proof is that there is nothing else to form them.”

          False.

          EM is not a “thing”. It is a geometry. It is a geometry of a propagated disturbance.

          Geometry is key.

          Geometry defines EM one way, electric charge another way, and gravitation yet another.

  • 2ndxmr  On September 18, 2015 at 1:10 PM

    V:”These two aspects came about simultaneously.”

    It is probably more likely that simple bubbles of non-aware space were the first thing to arise.

    At some point in the spontaneous emergence of space bubbles, a bubble of space that had potential for awareness would then arise.

    • vinaire  On September 18, 2015 at 2:12 PM

      The abstraction scale is normal to the time scale. So the abstraction scale comes into existence as a whole.

      • 2ndxmr  On September 18, 2015 at 6:26 PM

        V:”The abstraction scale is normal to the time scale.”

        This simply describes a dimension of unknown character. That is acceptable.

        Saying it “comes into existence as a whole” is not particularly meaningful as that applies to any dimension.

        • vinaire  On September 18, 2015 at 6:43 PM

          The y-axis is normal to the x-axis. This is similar type of situation. At every x-value, the whole y-scale is there.
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  • 2ndxmr  On September 18, 2015 at 1:14 PM

    V:”It is an error to think that spiritual and physical phenomena are independent of each other, and to speculate on which came first, or which produced the other.”

    From a viewpoint of probability, the line of causality would point to the sequence of simple space emerging first followed by potentially aware space.

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