KHTK AXIOM ZERO

INITIAL ASSUMPTIONS:

The implicit assumptions of this project are:

  1. KNOWLEDGE IS NOT ABSOLUTE BUT RELATIVE.
  2. THE UNKNOWN MAY BE MADE KNOWN THROUGH THE RESOLUTION OF INCONSISTENCIES.

For an understanding of inconsistency please refer toINCONSISTENCY & LOOKING.]

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OBSERVATIONS:

The initial observations of this project are:

  1. THERE IS LOOKING AND PERCEIVING
  2. ANYTHING THAT CAN BE PERCEIVED IS MANIFESTED. 
  3. ANYTHING THAT IS MANIFESTED IS EXISTING.
  4. CERTAIN AMOUNT OF PHILOSOPHY AND LOGIC IS BUILT INTO THE LANGUAGE AND IT IS DIFFICULT TO CIRCUMVENT AT TIMES.

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CONJECTURES:

  1. EXISTENCE DEPENDS ON THE ABILITY TO LOOK AND PERCEIVE.
  2. THE ABILITY TO LOOK AND PERCEIVE EXISTS.

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For the next axiom please refer to KHTK AXIOMS: A Work in Progress.

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Comments

  • vinaire  On November 20, 2012 at 8:31 AM

    DESIRE leads to THOUGHT and that leads to MANIFESTED REALITY.

    It is our desire to know that is driving us right now.

    Can we understand this desire?

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    • Chris Thompson  On November 20, 2012 at 10:29 AM

      Desire to me seems manifested throughout the universe as gravity. It is woven utterly into the physics of the two terminal universe as attractive force. Even inertia is expresses itself as “desiring” bodies in motion to remain in motion and bodies at rest “desiring” to remain at rest.

      Anthropomorphically we call this desire, affinity, love, sex, and etc.,. Physically we have “charged” particles, gravity, electromotive forces, vacuums, and all manner of instabilities.

      Maybe a better understanding of the physics of gravity will improve our understanding of our own desire.

      • Chris Thompson  On November 20, 2012 at 10:37 AM

        This is consistent with the definition and sense of “universe.”

      • vinaire  On November 20, 2012 at 10:39 AM

        Well, here seems to be some original looking. 🙂

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        • Chris Thompson  On November 20, 2012 at 10:55 AM

          Thank you Vin. It is original for me, however, I’ve long since given up on having an original thought from this universe. If I research enough, I usually find a self-similar and recursive thought out there.

          I’ve begun thinking of The Self in this way as well. Take you and I for instance — our selves can be looked at as individual; but spend enough time together and our selves look more self-similar and recursive. If this is the pattern of biologic Nature, why wouldn’t it also be the pattern of existence?

          I leap to a lot of conclusions at this point.

        • vinaire  On November 20, 2012 at 3:20 PM

          I have observed that married couples in a happy marriages seems to look quite similar after a while. 🙂

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        • Chris Thompson  On November 20, 2012 at 3:27 PM

          hohoho! Won’t that shock the Missus if you and I start looking alike?!?

        • vinaire  On November 20, 2012 at 3:56 PM

          First thing they’ll notice would be the bald heads. 🙂

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      • vinaire  On November 20, 2012 at 12:46 PM

        So, tension comes about when a dichotomy is created. Is “gravity” trying to eliminate that tension?

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  • vinaire  On November 20, 2012 at 8:41 AM

    DESIRE seems to be an inherent tension. It is like something shifted that wants to return to its original state.

    This is what generates harmonic motion.

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    • Chris Thompson  On November 20, 2012 at 10:39 AM

      . . . And maybe what I term the “elastic and sticky” properties of space. There is your inherent tension — a property of space.

    • Chris Thompson  On November 20, 2012 at 10:42 AM

      but I am missing your concrete idea of harmonic motion. Maybe an example?

      • vinaire  On November 20, 2012 at 3:11 PM

        Motion of a pendulum is a classic example of harmonic motion. Wikipedia is very good in providing grasp of such concepts.

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  • vinaire  On November 20, 2012 at 8:43 AM

    A potential is created by such a shift.

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    • Chris Thompson  On November 20, 2012 at 10:42 AM

      Yes, such as electromotive force.

    • Chris Thompson  On November 20, 2012 at 10:43 AM

      and again, it seems that I can visualize how this could be a property of space.

    • vinaire  On November 20, 2012 at 3:14 PM

      Potential is also created by separation as it generates restoring force. Thus, space would be full of potential because its basic characteristic is separation.

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      • Chris Thompson  On November 20, 2012 at 3:26 PM

        This is a good point and also in support of my elastic and sticky space.

  • vinaire  On November 20, 2012 at 8:46 AM

    The Creation Hymn of Rig Veda says:

    “Desire came upon that One in the beginning,
    that was the first seed of mind.”

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  • vinaire  On November 20, 2012 at 8:48 AM

    And prior to that

    “The life force that was covered with emptiness,
    that One arose through the power of heat.”

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  • vinaire  On November 20, 2012 at 8:50 AM

    And prior to that

    “That One breathed, windless, by its own impulse.
    Other than that there was nothing beyond.”

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  • vinaire  On November 20, 2012 at 9:04 AM

    So, there is aliveness, but that is a conjecture.

    The conjecture is self supporting. It is the snake eating its tail.

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  • vinaire  On November 20, 2012 at 9:11 AM

    So, the best statement seems to be:

    KHTK AXIOM ZERO: THERE IS MANIFESTED REALITY.

    The only objection here would be to the following conjectures:
    “There is”
    “manifested”
    “reality”

    But, that should be settled through looking. We have to start from somewhere. We may better start from a trust in LOOKING.

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  • vinaire  On November 20, 2012 at 9:19 AM

    How about some of the following for the size?

    KHTK AXIOM ZERO: THERE IS CONJECTURE.

    KHTK AXIOM ZERO: THERE IS LOOKING.

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  • vinaire  On November 20, 2012 at 9:21 AM

    Let’s combine it all into one.

    KHTK AXIOM ZERO: THERE IS CONJECTURE.THERE IS LOOKING. THERE IS MANIFESTED REALITY.

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  • vinaire  On November 20, 2012 at 9:55 AM

    So, I have thrown away the previous version of KHTK AXIOM ZERO.

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  • vinaire  On November 20, 2012 at 1:32 PM

    Inherent tension seems to be a property of space. The main characteristic of space is separation. So, there seem to be a relation between this separation and tension. Separation also seems to be a characteristic of any dichotomy. Therefore, Dichotomies may have something to do with space.

    Tension to separate seems to be balanced by some sort of attraction. This attraction within space may be the sense of gravitational attraction. Attraction increases with mass. Does mass solidify separation in some manner?

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  • vinaire  On November 20, 2012 at 1:38 PM

    Creation seems to bring about dichotomy, separation and tension. The first manifestation of creation seems to be space. Gravitational attraction seems to be the manifestation of some kind of a reaction to this tension in space.

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  • vinaire  On November 20, 2012 at 5:59 PM

    I have finally worked out KHTK AXIOM ZERO with the support of two KHTK PRELOGICS as in the OP above.

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    • Brian Culkin  On November 20, 2012 at 6:26 PM

      “creation brings about a dichotomy” #hegel

      • vinaire  On November 20, 2012 at 6:32 PM

        Yes. That shall be taken up in subsequent axioms. The first step is to affirm that there is manifested reality. That’s all. We are not speculating how that reality came to be.

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  • vinaire  On November 21, 2012 at 7:03 AM

    I finally discovered what has been the bug all this time. Just go to the Wikipedia and read up on REALITY. There is a lot of confusion about what is real. The moment this discovery was made, everything came into focus.

    I have now replaced KHTK AXIOM ZERO by three pre-logics in the OP (opening post) above.

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  • vinaire  On November 21, 2012 at 7:43 PM

    These three pre-logics seem to connect three different concepts in English language: (a) perception (b) manifestation (c) existence.

    (1) Manifestation has been defined in terms of perception.

    (2) Existence has been in defined in terms of manifestation.

    (3) Being and existing are synonymous.

    So looks like existence depends on perception and perception only. Comments?

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